[tt] Independent: Greener power to the people: the real energy alternative?

[yoshi]

On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 11:43:28PM -0500, Jef wrote:

> You try digging a hole a few thousand feet deep.

You drill, of course.

Here, my flat is heated by it:

http://www.geothermie-unterhaching.de/cms/geothermie/geothermie_web.nsf/id/pa_home_d.html

Make some electricity with it as well, using the Kalina cycle.
 
> If geothermal were that easy we would all be doing it already. But it
is 

Everything is easy in the retrospect, once you know how.

> one of the technologies being explored, like ocean waves, ocean 

Waves have a lot of energy, so you've got some very expensive
infrastructure
which gets wrecked continuously. This might be different with subsurface
streams, but I haven't seen a decent analysis.

> temperature differentials, etc. etc. We will see how it progresses. 
> There is plenty of information on it on the internet, wikipedia, etc.
> 
> Nuclear works and works now.

>No, it doesn't. 
>
>

thing is nuclear does work just not as well as anyone wants it to, it's
expensive and all that and may not be as efficient as desires but you
know something when your out of options you take any plan that works no
matter how poorly it works. and we are running out of options

geothermal isnt nessecary easy nor is probably any other option which
sucks energy out of the ground, or conversely puts it back in to cool in
the summer, but thanks to decades of alternatives being held back for
oil interests we dont have many real options. can you name any better
options??? probably not our best bet right now is to throw everything
into a pot to try and stay afloat until we develop a good plan