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Productive Nanosystems conference kickoff
Today and tomorrow, we're reporting on presentations at an important
conference on Productive Nanosystems: Launching the Technology Roadmap.
Chris Phoenix is providing live blog coverage for us...
I'm here at the Productive Nanosystems conference, to hear where some
very smart and high-powered thinkers expect that atomically precise
nanotechnology and nano-building-nano will go over the next few decades.
The big question I have is: How much will the roadmap focus on nanoscale
technologies that fall short of molecular manufacturing, and how much
will it provide concrete endorsement and information about molecular
manufacturing?
The first speaker is Alex Kawczak, VP, Nanotechnology & BioProducts,
Battelle. Battelle is the manager or co-manager of seven national labs,
and brings a lot of technical weight and gravitas to the Roadmap
collaboration. Alex, starting off the conference, will show what the
Roadmap is really about: more nanoscale tech, or something really
innovative in the way of nano-building-nano.
He starts by talking about nano being a revolution... the roadmap is "a
recommitment to atomic precision" as the guiding vision of nanotech.
Guiding vision is to engage nanotech to improve the human condition. He
mentions technical people who have contributed to the roadmap, Eric
Drexler of course, Jeff Soreff at IBM, Damian Allis at Syracuse
University, and also Stephanie Corchnoy at Synchrona.
Next a review of Battelle's history that I won't try to summarize.
A review of the goals of US, Korean, and Taiwanese nanotech initiatives.
They all want to improve nanoscale tech with a focus on
commercialization. US NNI has invested $6.5 billion over the past 5
years - most in basic research. "An opportunity exists for the U.S. to
be a leader in the research and applied development of atomically
precise technologies and atomically precise manufacturing (APM)." In
other words, this is how the US can distinguish ourselves from the
global crowd.
He cites Feynman: atomic precision, "maneuvering things atom by atom."
There are several Atomically Precise things in the Roadmap:
Manufacturing, Atomically Precise Productive Nanosystems (APPN),
Atomically Precise Technologies. Now he's talking about the nanotech
market as a whole ($1 trillion by 2015), most of which is not atomically
precise. He says atomic precision can improve nanotech.
Atomically Precise Structures are a definite arrangement of atoms.
Self-assembled DNA, engineered proteins, nanotube segments, etc. But
atomically precise technology will increase scale and complexity.
Atomically Precise Manufacturing (APM) lets you build atomically precise
structures under programmable control.
Atomically Precise Productive Nanosystems are functional nanosystems
that implement APM. This is nano-building-nano - the high-impact stuff.
So this sounds like the roadmap defines a spectrum of AP technologies,
working from self-assembly of engineered AP structures, up to nano
building nano.
Two strategies in the roadmap: 1) Develop AP technologies for energy; 2)
Develop AP technologies for medicine. Hm, no emphasis on productive
nanosystems in that slide.
They're hoping that the Roadmap will help a broad range of industries to
develop nano capabilities. They want to develop a broad technology base
for APT, apply this to develop APM, APPNs, and spinoff APT applications.
They want to "treat atomic precision as an essential criterion for
research." So the roadmap encompasses self-assembly as well as APPN.
A few very dense slides of years-in-future. 10-25 years in the future,
they want solid-building APPNs (not just polymer) with small-molecule
inputs. 15-30 years, scalable APPN-array systems. Product: "Systems at
the level of complexity of 2007 macroscale products." That's a pretty
significant goal!
He re-states that the US is well positioned to lead this technology, and
that "APM products will have Broad and Growing Applications that will
lead to Productive Nanosystems of the future."
Question from audience: Does roadmap explicitly lead to macro-scale?
Answer from Drexler: Roadmap takes today's technology forward, so it's a
long road, but it does say a bit about that long-range objective.
Question: (Inaudible, something about funding): Answer: Alex: NNI has
done a very good job of establishing nanotech centers within national
labs, so we believe that e.g. energy initiative, a DOE program manager
focused on APM that would work with e.g. DOE nat'l labs, to create the
foundation for APM within established national labs, we said that's
necessary. There's been a lot of solid research done, tremendous
organization of capabilities, best in world, so we're well-positioned.
Question: Why focus on energy and healthcare? Alex from Energy
[research] infrastructure is there, it's a matter of national security,
we expect that APM will help energy goals arrive much faster. Also in
health, we think there's groundwork that could benefit from APM. We were
pragmatic. We looked for where that $6.5B could be leveraged for
greatest societal benefit; also, these two areas are already receiving
funding.
Question: Different mfg techniques for different applications? Answer
(various people): Energy will mostly (except for catalysis) need
high-volume manufacturing. The roadmap recommends hybrid manufacturing
technology approaches at several points.
So it sounds like the Roadmap does talk, at least some, about molecular
manufacturing, which they call APPN. This could be a very interesting
conference. And it looks like the Roadmap does explicitly endorse
molecular manufacturing.
Post-talk comment from Jim Von Ehr (today's moderator): Comparison to
semiconductor roadmap: That was developed after they'd been going for a
while. Our roadmap is developed in advance, so it's a bit speculative;
you'll be amazed at how many different things were pulled together.
Productive Nanosystems: Abiotic Biomimetic Roadmap
Today and tomorrow, we're reporting on presentations at an important
conference on Productive Nanosystems: Launching the Technology Roadmap.
Chris Phoenix is providing live blog coverage for us...
Second talk Tuesday: Chris Schafmeister: got started in protein design,
designed a protein--which took four years. He would like to make things
like proteins and enzymes, but rather than building flexible chains that
have to fold, he wants building blocks that couple through (rigid) pairs
of bonds. Since they don't have to fold, they will be easier to design.
The building blocks can be "decorated" with functional groups to make
enzyme-like things.
Productive nanosystem definition: "A closed loop of nanoscale components
that make nanoscale components."
Schafmeister has built 14 building blocks - some of them, they can make
tens of grams at a time. They've built one with a functional group and
they're working on other functional groups - some not found in natural
amino acids.
They attach a building block to a plastic bead, then add other building
blocks one at a time. This is not self-assembly: it is programmed
assembly. They want to build molecules containing 20-50 blocks. That's a
lot of reaction steps! Once they've built a chain, they double-link it,
making it rigid. They've synthesized over 100 molecules; most are very
water-soluble; the most building blocks so far is 18.
He's got an 8-page featured article in "Scientific American Reports: The
Rise of Nanotech."
He wants to "create many artificial catalysts that approach the
capabilities of enzymes." No one has made an enzyme yet - he wants to
make thousands of them, engineered. He wants to make 60,000 enzymes as
rapidly as he can write 60,000 lines of code. This may be achievable
because enzymes carry out catalysis (accelerating chemical reactions) by
changing the mechanism of the reaction. It does this via functional
groups arrayed around the substrate. "If we can position multiple
functional groups in three-dimensional space in all the right places,"
then we may be able to implement enzymes. So if functional groups (found
in databases) were positioned in space correctly, you'd have the enzyme.
So, figure out where the functional groups should be, then use computer
search to find the sequence of building blocks that holds the functional
groups in the right position. He shows an example of his software
working, searching for a sequence.
Proposes a "nanomachine synthesizer": 1) Chemical solution vat 2)
Personal computer 3) Electrochemical interface. In biology, DNA is
transcribed into messenger RNA, the sequence of bases which are read
into the sequence of proteins. Trouble is, there's no place to plug in a
computer. So replace the DNA with a computer...
He proposes a "synthesis train" - a sequence of carriers (built of his
molecules) each of which carries one building block. So he'd build the
synthesis train out of his molecular building blocks, and the train
would then carry other building blocks to build other molecules. The
carriers would be rigid, and when the chain was bent, it would bring the
building blocks together and make them react. The building blocks would
be put onto the train, and error-checked, by yet other catalytic
molecules.
Electrode chips exist which act as redox controllers and sensors,
driving chemistry with electricity. He wants to use similar electrodes
to modify his synthesis trains. Each train has a header with a
switchable state. So you start with a bunch of one-"car" trains (one
"header" plus one car), then string the "cars" together onto a single
header.
He wants to have a system that can take in very small feedstock
molecules, build building blocks, then put them into chains under full
computer control: massively parallel.
Once he's built 50-block chains, to put them together into larger
structures, he wants to do it with covalent bonding rather than
self-assembly. Stronger and potentially more reliable than
self-assembly.
To design something like a biomedical robot: First, design each
component and how they will fit. This is a huge job. Break it down into
components and sub-components. Design the smallest sub-components with
complementary surfaces... then design the catalysts that will combine
the units... so you're building both structural chains and catalysts to
join them. You probably couldn't build a car with this, but you could
build things large enough to see and handle. Again, this is not
self-assembly. He has some ideas for how to build things that are too
big for chemical reactions. He skipped past some very interesting slides
showing probe tips used to place molecules.
His summary: This builds on biology and organic synthesis experience.
There are opportunities for error correction as needed. It's highly
parallel and highly redundant. There's no runaway self-replication. You
can improve it incrementally.
Question: How long do the chemical operations take? A: Seconds, maybe
minutes. Not hours. Right now, we do one per hour (10^17 molecular
copies).
Question: In enzymes, moving the active site even a few angstroms can
break the enzyme. So you may have trouble positioning your active
components precisely enough. A: I get this question a lot. The search
space is enormous: 14^30 three-dimensional structures. The molecules are
not completely rigid. The goal is to be off by less than a couple of
angstroms. Also, the functional side chains will have free rotation;
we'll either have to block that, or see if we can use it. In natural
proteins, when you add a substrate, the protein folds up around it.
Q: Have you looked at branched structures? A: There aren't enough
protecting groups in chemistry. (So you couldn't build out each chain
separately.)
So... this sounds like a very aggressive and interesting way to build
large molecule systems which can be designed to be functional.
--
Productive Nanosystems: Atomically Precise Manufacturing
Today and tomorrow, we're reporting on presentations at an important
conference on Productive Nanosystems: Launching the Technology Roadmap.
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Third talk, John Randall, Zyvex: A completely different approach. Zyvex
was founded to create atomically precise manufacturing on the way to
productive nanosystems. In other words, building precise structures
using big machines rather than nanoscale tools.
Assumptions:
1. APM is valuable.
2. Digital matter is "an advantage ripe to be exploited." (I've been
saying this for a long time - it's a fundamental advantage of molecular
manufacturing.)
3. Self-assembly is powerful but limited.
4. Brute-force top-down engineering is not always elegant but it works.
Goal: Produce 3D rigid covalent structures with top-down control direct
from CAD (computerized blueprint). This is the result of improvements in
ultra-precision manufacturing, but it'll take a change in mindset.
(Current manufacturing still treats matter as jelly-like and infinitely
divisible.)
They've found commercial applications for even very limited initial
capabilities.
Putting atoms where you want them: Eigler's creation of the "IBM" logo
made use of atoms dropping into minimum-energy positions. (This is a
reference back to the digital theme.)
Wilson Ho did molecular pick and place, creating covalent bonds. (There
have been a variety of scanning probe chemistry demonstrations.
Mechanosynthesis has issues: You have to pick up the part, verify you
have it, transfer it, verify you've done that. They've looked at tool
tip reactions; they think that existing tools are adequate to deposit
dimers on diamond surface at room temperature. Although this is
theoretically exciting, there are practical problems, including how to
synthesize the tool tip. So they took a different approach...
Atomic layer deposition builds amorphous materials; atomic layer epitaxy
(ALE) builds crystalline materials. Start with a protected (passivated)
surface: every available bond has a hydrogen atom. If you deprotect the
surface, removing the hydrogen, then you can deposit a layer of atoms.
If you choose the right precursor gas, you add only one monolayer which
is protected as it's added. Then you can deprotect and add exactly one
more layer of atoms. There are a number of precursor gases available.
There are literally hundreds of systems to grow things with atomic
precision in one dimension.
Now, if you combine this with the ability to deprotect the surface in
selected locations... With a scanning tunneling microscope, you can
remove single hydrogen atoms with atomic precision. Several groups have
demonstrated this. This is "the limit of a thin resist" - a monolayer of
hydrogen.
If you do this layer by layer, you can build 3D structures. Prof. Joe
Lyding at University of Illinois has done repeated
desorption/deposition. He's probably created amorphous, not crystalline,
but it does show patterning.
Differences from mechanosynthesis:
1. Building blocks don't have to be captured by the tool tip.
2. The tool tip can be used to inspect both deprotection and assembly.
3. You can do large areas (fast) or atomic resolution, depending on
mode.
4. This is a very general technique.
5. All you need is an atomic-resolution STM tip - don't need anything
else with atomic resolution.
You can't make large, reentrant, or releasable structures. However,
there are some useful products. They aren't interested in a laboratory
demonstration; they want manufacturing.
You need an atomically precise, invariant tip. ALIS has built such a
tip. A reproducible atomic structure at the end of a tungsten wire.
There are several other possibilities. Note that the tip never has to
touch the surface, so it should last quite a while without damage.
He wants a parallel array of SPMs for higher throughput. They think they
can get sub-nanometer closed loop X-Y position control with integrated
electronics, using CMOS MEMS processes.
They're trying to develop a dual-material process, silicon and
germanium, so that you can make releasable structures. (They think they
can deal with lattice mismatch.)
One possible product is a nano-imprint template. They expect atomically
precise tools to be the most valuable product. They expect to enable
productive nanosystem factories.
Question: Hydrogen migrates at normal temperatures. Is that compatible
with the deposition technologies? A: We believe (after careful study)
that the hydrogen is stable on a silicon surface, up to 200-300 degrees
C. We think we can get epitaxy to work in that window. Cryogenic
temperatures are not necessary. You do get motion on a single dimer, but
no long-range motion.
Question (from Drexler): There's a big divide in molecular technologies
is between processes where parts go together due to fit or reactivity,
and those where the resulting pattern is due to mechanical control.
Conceptually, your approach comes under mechanosynthesis. About error
rate: If you have a mis-removal, can you put a hydrogen back where it
should be? And how can you correct errors in silicon deposition? A: ALE
balances errors: It relies on mobility of silicon on unpassivated
surfaces. This may not work on small surfaces. We don't know what error
rates will be in small areas. But at least we'll have a way to inspect.
We don't have a generic way of removing silicon or putting down
hydrogen. We may be able to deposit hydrogen in an area and then go back
and clean it up.
Q: Have you looked at atomically precise *doped* structures? A: You'll
hear Michelle Simmons talk about putting down phosphorous atoms exactly
where she wants them. So yes, we can create structures with controlled
doping. Again, the reaction is generic. We think there's a wide range of
heterostructures you can make.
--
Productive Nanosystems: Bio-Nano Approaches
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conference on Productive Nanosystems: Launching the Technology Roadmap.
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Fourth talk: Keith Firman, University of Portsmouth, UK. Title:
Biological Molecular Motors for Nanodevices.
The interesting thing about biology is that it crosses both the micro
and the nanoscale. He'll talk about chemical motors, overview types of
biological molecular motors, give examples of nanodevices incorporating
molecular motors, talk about single-molecule measurements, toxicity
testing biosensor, and a proposed biosensor/nanoactuator.
(As a side note: biological motors are immersed in water, which will
limit their power density and efficiency from fluid drag. Not all
molecular motors are immersed in water, but many of them are.)
Chemical motors (non-biological) can generate a force of 200 pN per
molecule, from a machine 2-3 nm in size. That's pretty impressive.
Even simple organisms, such as bacteria-targeting viruses
(bacteriophages), include molecular motors. These are used to augment
self-assembly. For example, the bacteriophage motor can corkscrew DNA
into the virus against 10,000 atmospheres of pressure, using ATP for
fuel.
Most bacteria have self-assembled flagellar motors: about 40 proteins
(multiple copies).
Kinesin: walks along microtubules in cells, again powered by ATP, taking
200-300 steps per minute. If kinesin is fastened to a glass slide, it
can make microtubules move.
ATP synthase includes a proton pump, which is connected to a component
that synthesizes ATP. In an experiment, the ATP-synthesizing part (which
is reversible, as it must be for efficiency--CP) was attached to a glass
surface, a fiber (made of actin and fluorescently tagged) was attached
to the drive shaft, and adding ATP made the fiber rotate. In another
experiment, the proton-pump part was attached to a light-driven proton
generator, and an array of these was used to transport a fiber for over
70 microns. So this is quite cool.
It's difficult to attach motors to a surface and have them still work.
Translocases bind to DNA at a specific site and then pull it to make it
move. Not just one step - many base pairs are pulled through the
translocase, making the strand shorter. AFMs can be used to watch the
translocase create a loop of DNA. But this is a slow process. Using a
magnetic bead, they've measured 564 base pairs per second being pulled.
They're hoping to commercialize this type of motor. If the DNA can pull
the bead toward a Hall-effect sensor, then they can detect addition of
"fuel" (ATP) that makes the motor move. This could be used as a
nanoscale valve, or a toxicity tester: detecting dioxin, which stops the
motor from working. One dioxin molecule per 400 bases of DNA will stop
the motor. It may also sense DNA-binding drugs. Each molecule can
generate an individual signal (each molecule has its own sensor). And
different molecules can have different sequences.
My summary: This is very cool work, but not much related to productive
nanosystems. The motor they're looking at doesn't seem especially useful
for molecular machine applications (though it seems great for sensors).
I asked this question, and he said this could be used as a conveyor
belt: DNA is a great templating tool to attach objects to. But not in
the next 10 years. I'm still not sure how controllable this would be; he
mentioned that the motor randomly lets go of the DNA.
Question: If the DNA is functionalized, can it be pulled through the
motor? A: If there's a gap in the DNA (a region of just one strand) then
it'll pull through. If there's a junction or branch, it'll stop.
--
Computing for Productive Nanosystems
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Fifth talk: James Davenport, Director, Computational Science Center,
Brookhaven National Laboratory.
We need computational tools which take account of atomistics. Atomic
resolution is critical. We're not dealing with big enough systems! But
massively parallel petaflop systems are becoming available.
A single 5-nm dot of material has about 5,000 atoms. A 7-nm cube has
about 40,000 atoms. You can make cobalt single-atom lines on platinum
with a shallowly stepped surface. Quantum dots have interesting optical
properties, and changing the size in a small way changes the optical
properties. Biological effects can depend on size. Proteins can have
thousands of atoms: they're nanoscale systems. Note that to study a
protein in simulation, you need to add water: tens of thousands of
atoms.
A roadmap for simulation has to deal with mixed length and time scales.
You will be dealing with petaflop systems, which the simulation
community doesn't yet know how to deal with. Software needs to be
interoperable. Data sharing needs standards. (This would also help with
integrating experimental results.) Data storage and retrieval is a
problem: large amounts of data are generate by both experiment and
simulation.
Hierarchy of tools, smallest to largest scale:
* Quantum mechanical (ab-initio, DFT)
* Car-Parrinello or first principles molecular dynamics (MD)
* Force field MD (AMBER, CHARMM) [This is what's used in a lot of
nanomachine simulations]
* Heisenberg magnets
* Nanoparticle-nanoparticle
* Continuum (elasticity, micromagnetics)
Quantum simulations using the Schrodinger equation are basically
impossible for multi-atom simulations. But there are approximations
(e.g. Hartree-Fock) that are not very expensive, but pretty accurate.
There's a lot of discussion about properties emerging from lower-level
simulations, "You've probably all heard of the program Guassian," the
ability to study magnetism but not the temperature dependence of
magnetism... I'm not going to try to report on this.
Bulk gold is inert, but nanoscale gold is a useful catalyst.
Relativistic effects are important since gold is heavy.
It's relatively rare that the quantum nature of atoms comes in. For
example, for proteins, you use classical approximations. And in fact,
you extrapolate parameters for the various different atoms.
For molecular dynamics, you want a time step of 10^-15 seconds. Protein
folding takes milliseconds. The fastest folding protein that we know of
takes a microsecond. That's a billion time steps! Until recently, we
could do about 1/1000 of that. With Blue Gene/L, a few weeks of computer
time might get you a microsecond: 10,000 processors, 10 particles per
processor.
A recent simulation, of carbon nanotubes growing on iron, was done with
forces computed on the fly from Hellmann-Feynman. (So the forces didn't
have to be estimated.)
In high-end computing, the future is parallel. Clock speeds aren't
getting faster. So we'll be getting multi-core. Blue Gene/P in 2008 will
have 560 teraflop/s. Cray XT4 will be petaflop. 10 petaflop @
NCSA/Illinois in 2010. In 10 years, we may have exaflop machines!
Petaflop and exaflop machines will have tens or hundreds of thousands of
processors. They'll run slow for better reliability (less heat).
Tying it back to productive nanosystems: You will need computers;
petaflop machines are around the corner; plan to use them on larger
atomic systems; combine them with data repositories and experimental
systems; think about multidisciplinary education (which may be corrosive
to e.g. the idea of distinct physics departments).
Question: What's the current vogue for connections in multiprocessor
machines? A: Current topology for interconnecting processors is a torus
network. But with multi-cores (Blue Gene-P is a quad-core machine)
communication will be fast among cores on a chip.
I didn't hear much relating to the Productive Nanosystems Roadmap in
this talk.
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Drexler On the Roadmap
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Sixth talk: Eric Drexler. Drexler is the one who started the idea of
molecular manufacturing back in the mid-1980's.
The general focus of the Roadmap is on atomically precise technologies,
not productive nanosystems. That's because the former is a necessary
foundation for the latter. To engage researchers and encourage
development, the roadmap focuses on the former. It provides merit
criteria and metrics for research today. When selecting between
proposals, look for atomic precision. Look for size, range of materials,
other criteria that we'll probably hear about later in the talk.
The Roadmap looks toward advanced manufacturing (what physics says
should be possible), but focuses on accessible productive nanosystems
(such as ribosome-like systems).
Quantity of material is important: with tiny manufacturing capacity, you
can make a few sensors. With large-scale manufacturing, you can address
things like global warming. It's important to look at scenarios where
the roadmap succeeds in developing such objectives. But for now, focus
on near-term things.
Near-term, there are several kinds of atomically precise things we can
build. One is biopolymers: protein, DNA. Very large design space
available here. But proteins are hard to design. Proteins are not
squishy and soft, like meat - that's mostly water. Think of cow horn,
silk... protein could have the properties of epoxy. Proteins are useful
for catalysts, precise alignment...
DNA doesn't have as large a range of functions as proteins. You can make
mechanical structures with it. 3D structures, 2D structures with complex
edges. NanoRex is working on structural DNA design using Paul
Rothemund's "staple" approach. So you can design a million-atom, 100-nm
diameter, atomically precise, 3D structures. If you had a DNA
synthesizer in-house, you could design a structure and build it in one
day... 50 billion copies. This appears to be useful for building circuit
boards. Zinc finger proteins can bind to specific DNA sequences, which
implies you can attach things to these DNA structures.
Another class of precise things is specialized structures, where each
one has to be synthesized separately. These are non-modular and tend not
to have a lot of design freedom. But the range of function is almost
unlimited: catalytic, electronic, mechanical, optical...
So the goal of all this capability (bought with multiple $billions)
should be to integrate these components to build systems with hundreds
to thousands of distinct 3D components, using atomically precise
scaffolding and binding elements. Biology has this kind of integration:
protein with nucleic acid with other stuff.
New topic: Advances in production technology. Type 1 advances build
better products. In Type 2, the products include improvements to the
production system, which can enable further improvements. So we really
want better productive machines that can build better productive
machines... This appears to be an argument for using nanosystems as the
means of production of nanosystems.
Today, tools build tools that build tools... traceable back to
blacksmithing. The tool that extruded your breakfast bagel is a leaf on
this tree. The advanced APM tree has a "Mark II Ribosome" low on the
trunk, and "Macroscale APM" high on the trunk, with "Dollar-per-kilogram
fab" among the leaves. People tend to assume that things high in the
tree are proposals for next year, "which would be absurd."
The Roadmap talks about cross-linked organic structures. An idea that
arose pretty late is mixed covalent-ionic bonding. Titanium dioxide,
quartz. This may be closer than what's been looked at more closely.
The role of roadmapping: Developing the knowledge and confidence
necessary for coordinated system development. So the Productive
Nanosystems roadmap should show what's necessary, when, how to
coordinate and schedule developments. Avoid chicken-and-egg problems
that lead to slow incremental progress.
DNA currently costs dollars per milligram. There's no point in thinking
about kilogram-scale structures... but there's a researcher who has an
idea for making DNA at dollars per kilogram... but why should he do it
when there's no market for kilograms of DNA? This is a real example: it
seems that DNA might actually get vastly cheaper.
--
Designing and Building Proteins
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Next talk: Alexsandr Miklos is speaking on Protein Design and
Fabrication Automation.
What they do:
Immobilization and functionalization (turn proteins into sensors)
Capacity to engineer novel function (modify existing proteins)
Rapid protein fabrication (build and test)
Why:
Generate larger datasets (more research knowledge)
Produce technologically useful proteins
He starts from pre-folded (known) structures, then modifies them to get
new functions. Proteins can bind almost anything; can be bound to
fiber-optic cables to make sensors; can signal by fluorescence or
electrochemistry; already, proteins on the end of an optical fiber are
in clinical trials as a glucose sensor.
Protein from high-temperature organisms can be stable for months at room
temperature.
You can apparently take an existing protein, then modify the "pocket"
that binds to molecules, so that it binds to the molecule you're
interested in. Alexsandr talks very fast, so it's difficult to follow
much less blog. But it seems he has a method for simulating lots of
different pocket configurations, winnowing down the possibilities, and
evaluating the remainder.
Then it's time to build and test the proteins in the lab. Rather than
building DNA strands from scratch, there's a way to use PCR to stitch
together smaller snippets. A robot can build a 96-well plate, doing 1440
fluid-handling steps, in 2.5 hours.
There are clever ways to purify proteins that I didn't catch; something
about a chemical that binds to a certain sequence of amino acids,
Cys-Cys-X-X-Cys-Cys. But once you've built them (which takes only four
days) you can almost immediately evaluate them.
This is useful stuff -- a likely enabling technology for bio-based
pathways to molecular manufacturing.
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Foresight Prize Winners
The Foresight Nanotech Institute awards prizes each year for people
who've made noteworthy contributions to molecular manufacturing: a
student prize, a communication prize, and two Feynman Prizes, one for
theory and one for experiment (named after the physicist, who talked
about atomically precise manufacturing in 1959).
The student prize went to Fung Suong Ou, for "Devices and Machines on a
Single Nanowire." He used a combinatorial approach to fabricate
one-dimensional structures composed of carbon nanotubes and metal
nanowires.
The communication prize was earned by Robert Freitas for his decade-plus
of work telling people about the benefits of medical applications of
molecular manufacturing. His highly detailed and informative
Nanomedicine books are available in full online, as well as Kinematic
Self-Replicating Machines.
The Feynman theory prize was won by David A. Leigh, for artificial
molecular motor and machine design in the realm of Brownian motion.
The Feynman experimental prize went to Sir J. Fraser Stoddart, for
synthesizing molecular machines including a molecular "muscle."
Congratulations to all winners!
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Building Protein-Based Nanomaterials
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Next talk: Matthew B. Francis, Department of Chemistry, University of
California, Berkeley, is talking about New Synthetic Strategies to Build
Protein Based Nanomaterials.
When it's time to add functional molecules to proteins, only a few
reactions are used these days. Sometimes the reaction is incompatible
with the function you're trying to add. Their group is starting with
viral capsids. 180 copies of a simple protein shape self-assemble into
an icosahedral capsule (capsid) that's hollow. He wants to attach one
type of things to the outside of the capsule, another to the inside of
the capsule. So that means you have to attach two different things to
each protein, in the right position, so the right things end up on the
inside and the outside.
He's got a slide up with lots of chemical reactions, showing how
molecules can be joined together. "To remind you why you didn't go into
organic chem."
Bacteriophage MS2: affects E.coli, harmless to humans. Easy to grow,
high yield. Stable to 60 C. Has 2-nm holes. Can be emptied of RNA by
soaking at pH 11.8. Stable from pH 3 to 11. In other words, generally
useful.
There's a unique amino acid on the inside of the capsule, and there's a
reaction that will attach stuff to it.
They studied what happened to their capsule constructions in a rat in a
PET scanner. Found that a small molecule was dumped into the bladder in
minutes, but their molecular construction, being a lot bigger, wasn't
cleared as quickly.
They've found a way to attach antibodies to other proteins. This is very
useful for binding those proteins to whatever the antibody can bind to
(almost anything). They built a molecule that'll generate a toxic form
of oxygen when exposed to light. (Implication: if the antibody was for
cancer cells, you could kill the cells in a very targeted way.)
Tobacco mosaic virus is stable at high temperatures, and can be
harvested from tobacco plants in very large quantity. TMV can be broken
up into rings. Photosynthetic bacteria use ring-structures to position
chromophores (light absorbers) for maximum efficiency. They've attached
chromophores to TMV rings, and found that light can be transferred from
38 "donor" to each "acceptor" chromophore. That implies that the
construction is defect tolerant. They put other chromophore colors, and
got 90% efficiency. Finally, they attached ketones to the outside of the
TMV (the chromophore wound up on the inside) and attached gold particles
to the keytones. The ultimate goal is to convert the light into a
chemical transformation: to turn light into electron transfer.
He closed with a mention of modifying "whole cells" which I assume means
attaching stuff to cellular proteins. He showed a slide of cells stuck
to a surface in a precise line forming cursive letters.
My summary: This is cool stuff. To the extent that you can build
nanoscale stuff out of the virus, that's great. In addition, their
approach seems applicable to broader protein engineering. More ways to
attach stuff to protein molecules is always useful.
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DNA Origami, Extended
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Next talk: William Shih, "From Structural DNA Nanotechnology to NMR
Membrane Protein Structure"
We'll hear two stories. First, nanotubes built out of DNA to solve the
atomic structure of membrane proteins. Second, using DNA nanotubes to
assemble wire-frame cages quite a bit larger than cages built in the
past.
Holy grail for the DNA nanotechnology field (founder Ned Seeman's
original goal) is to make a hollow crystal of DNA, then bind the target
protein into the hollows. But this requires very precise spatial
ordering.
(You want proteins arranged in a crystal, because then when you shoot
X-rays through them, you can tell the structure. Shih just said that you
can use NMR to determine structure, and it doesn't need such precise
placement.)
There are (at least) three classes of proteins they're interested in:
adrenaline receptors, ion channels, and (I didn't catch it). Membrane
proteins are very important as drug targets, but very hard to analyze.
It's hard to purify them in the first place, and then to get them to
line up is another level of difficulty.
Membrane proteins have lots of methyl groups, which confuse the NMR
signal. But you can also determine angular information--if you can make
the proteins line up. You want 0.1% of the proteins to be aligned. So
you mix them with a dilute liquid crystal. But membrane proteins are
stabilized with detergent, which is incompatible with known liquid
crystals. So... build a liquid crystal-type thing out of DNA! (A long
thin filament.)
Just designing DNA strands that assemble into filaments isn't enough,
because you'll get a distribution of lengths. So... use Rothemund's DNA
Staple technology. There's enough DNA in the standard strand to build a
400-nm length of six helices. They wanted longer, so built two of these
things designed to stick in pairs.
And... they form a dilute liquid crystal. (It exhibits birefringence.)
And when mixed with a known protein, they found the signal they
expected. Good signal-to-noise ratio. Now they're looking at proteins
with unknown structure. This extends the range of NMR from 15(?) to 40
kilodaltons.
Now, the second story: Building arbitrary DNA structures. Of large size:
the field has been stuck at 25 nm geometric figures since about 2004.
Icosahedron - 30 struts: 100 nm wide. Build it out of three
double-triangles. And... it works! (Though there's some squishiness.) It
looks symmetric, but each strut has a different sequence. There's about
500 different staples: that's 500 different places to hang some protein.
My conclusion: Nice that they can build big engineered structures. May
be useful for research and maybe even for construction of moveable-part
nanomachines.
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Making Nanotubes Useful
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Next talk: "Multifunctional Carbon Nanotube-Based Systems: Linking
Synthesis and Function"
David B. Geohegan, Distinguished Research Staff Member, Oak Ridge
National Laboratory
Link synthesis to structure; structure to functionality
Goal: Measure nanotube growth; understand macro-scale functionality
Nanotubes have two kinds of property they want to develop: electronic
(where they're extremely impressive - up to one milliamp per tube!) and
structural (where it's still hard to build high-performance composites).
It's hard to build high-quality tubes in high quantity. And previously,
it's been common to synthesize tubes and go directly to building stuff,
without characterizing them.
Two ways to synthesize nanotubes: High temperature, which makes
high-quality tubes, but also lots of other junk (low purity).
Low-temperature synthesis grows tubes on substrates, at high purity, but
with defects.
There are fundamental questions, such as: What's the difference between
high and low temperature growth? Why can you sometimes grow tubes
without catalysts? These questions remain after years of research...
(Why would a curved carbon structure grow above a flat metal surface?
Computer study says that a curved carbon flake points the dangling bonds
at the edges down into the surface, which is happier.) (In
high-temperature synthesis, the tubes don't start to grow until the gas
cools some... because the metal clusters that catalyze the growth don't
condense until then.) (They found that condensed carbon clusters are
consumed by newly condensed particles to grow the tubes.)
No standards of purity exist for carbon nanotubes. They're making
single-wall nanotube (SWNT) membranes and measuring their optical
properties.
Electric field-induced contrast: an imaging method in an electron
microscope that shows how electrons are transported through a nanotube
network between electrodes. Very cool! Wish I'd thought of it. Useful to
investigate the electrical/electronic properties of nanotubes in
polymers.
Then there's another layer of questions involving nanotube-polymer
interactions...
There's a long discussion of growing nanotubes in a pulsed-laser
reactor. Cool videos of plasma plumes. Lots of observations about the
conditions in which various nanotubes grow. "This looks complicated, but
it's only about six rate equations."
So, this talk was about studying nanotube growth and properties--for
nanotubes grown and/or used in bulk. It's important to understand
nanotubes, but this work is not about machines or even electronic
circuits built of nanotubes. So I'm not sure that it contributes to our
understanding of how to build atomically precise structures that don't
happen to be nanotubes. For those interested in nanotubes: In response
to a question, he said that he could envision a continuous-flow reactor
that grew, centrifuged, cleaned, and sorted the nanotubes into bottles.
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Molecular Manufacturing Panel
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The first day of the Productive Nanosystems conference ends with a
panel. Here's a semi-transcript of what was said:
* Christian E. Schafmeister, Department of Chemistry, Temple University
* John Randall, Vice President, Zyvex Labs
* K. Eric Drexler, Chief Technical Advisor, Nanorex
* Keith Firman, School of Biological Sciences, University of Portsmouth
* Moderator: James Von Ehr, Founder, Zyvex Group
James: Defend your approach!
John: Covalent materials approach: this approach can build a wide range
of materials. Silicon, oxides, and metals have much more tractable
design rules than biopolymers. The disadvantage of this approach is that
it's serial, hard to scale up a lot. But there are a lot of applications
that don't require huge quantities of material. And there's room for
exponential scaleup of throughput once initial markets are established.
But I wouldn't want to discourage any approach I've heard today.
Christian: Approach based on catalysis: big molecules that make [or
join] small molecules; molecules making molecules. Starts out being
atomically precise. Biology is all about catalysis. We have about 20,000
different molecular machines in our body; we know that works. If we can
develop that sort of control, then we could do all the same things that
nature does, nanosystems building nanosystems very cheaply (cell turns
into blue whale).
Keith: Biological motors... biology offers us something now, and we
should use it now. A driving force of science is to make money.
Synthesize large arrays of materials in a different way. Use biology as
an engineering tool: the key to the future. It's doable, and it's doable
now.
Eric: The ideas I was talking about earlier are strong in part because
there are different ways of putting together materials. John mentioned
an important concept: design rules. Successful engineering areas have
design rules. It's not an experiment to make a new cabin with carpentry.
Some areas of nanotech are now at the point of carpentry. When I first
talked with Paul Rothemund, I asked him what's hard and what's easy. He
shook my faith in experimental work: he said it worked the first time
and every time since. That's like carpentry. Elsewhere, the design rule
is just "Here is this new thing, you can use it." In looking at new
pathways, a trap to avoid: Imagine a pathway, think "you could do it
this way [sub-path]," find a flaw, conclude the whole pathway doesn't
work. The rate of progress will be determined not by difficult problems,
but by the average rate of progress. [Just bypass the most difficult
sub-problems because there will be easier alternatives.] There may be
thousands of labs, and the fastest one will win--most don't need to
succeed at all.
Keith: Negative results are a caustic subject... while fusing proteins,
sometimes we get two proteins that change each other's properties. And
that's a negative result, and doesn't get published. It shouldn't be
lost.
James: Change the topic a bit... With our current national nanotech
program (NNI), which is mostly non-atomic-precision, we're spending
money to study environmental implications, but some say not enough... as
we move toward atomic precision, will we need to study this as much?
With better repeatability, will we be able to get by with less study?
John: No, every new technology needs to be looked at. If we can make it,
and can understand what its impacts will be through relatively simple
experiments, we might be able to do fewer experiments... but it's likely
to be unpredictable. One thing that's understood less is how much better
regulation is than it used to be. Maybe we're overreacting. Refers to
argument that banning DDT has killed millions of people from malaria. We
do have checks and balances in place. I'm not so fearful of the new
things coming out, because I think we do have an infrastructure to look
at these things.
Christian: In relation to the molecules we're planning to make, I'm not
that worried about environmental hazards, because they're organic and
water soluble - they'll get cleared out of the kidneys very quickly.
Matthew's gadolinium molecules were cleared out of the kidneys in
minutes. I'd worry more about big greasy molecules like nanotubes;
they'll collect in fat cells etc. I'm also not too worried about them
interacting with biological machinery. Protein-protein is a surface that
has to match another surface. Imagine if you scrambled the patterns on
two checkerboards; they'd be very unlikely to match.
Keith: Biomolecules will be antigenic [annoy the immune system]. I was
surprised to hear that even carbon nanotubes are antigenic. But I do
come from the UK, which has suffered problems recently with science.
BSE/mad cow. Genetically modified food. We're very wary now;
communication is the key. Science needs to communicate. I think the
dangers are less than they think--but we need to tell the public that.
Third thing: response of Prince Charles to nanobots. That image didn't
do the scientists a lot of good. We're now un-picking that damage,
trying to reassure the public that nanobots, even if they exist, won't
destroy the world.
Eric: I get a lot of questions about the risk involved in what people
are doing today. I answer that that's basically a question of
toxicology. There are some new questions of regulation and
classification, but it's basically just toxicology. There was an early
phase when people said "nanotubes are just graphite so it's not a
problem." That era has passed, and that's a good thing. There's been an
overreaction, precisely because a thought experiment in my '86 popular
book--which was obsolete by '92--was grabbed by sci-fi writers and the
popular press, twisted, blown up, distorted, despite my attempts to
alleviate this. One reason for this was that there was a lot of
excitement about nanotech, and lots of people were saying "What we're
doing today is nanotechnology--the whole thing." No distinction between
particles and nanobugs. So it all landed on current-day researchers.
We're largely past that era too. Looking forward along this pathway,
nano is about getting better control of materials. Given regulations and
human decency, people will use new capabilities to make better products
with fewer downsides. Toxicology problems will fade. New problem will be
new weapons; but microtech is leading there anyway, and nanotech won't
be qualitatively different.
Audience (someone on the National Materials Advisory Board): Point of
information: Environmental health and safety is still a hot topic here
in Washington. Workplace, commodities, environment, health... still
getting a lot of airtime. There'll be hearings in the near future. It
won't cool down in the near future.
Audience: I have trouble thinking about pathways unless I know where I'm
trying to get. James has said volume may not be needed for some
products. I'd like to know what we should make in volume, and for bonus,
in what time frame.
John: Something that's useful: A wall of silicon, a known number of
atoms high and wide: metrology standard. But also, nano-stamp can make
things with near atomic precision. You could do good things for the
optics industry. There's also possibility of molecular interaction
structures (membranes?) Also, high-quality oscillators for compact
radios.
James: Machine tools are a pretty good application.
Christian: My approach can inherently make large quantities of material.
There's a 36-peptide AIDS drug that's made on the ton scale every year.
If we can make catalysts in a silica material to soak up CO2, water,
sunlight, and create butanol, you could make automobile fuel from a
paint-on coating.
Keith: If you're going to build a biological system, use it for
biosensing. Biosensing has two components: recognition, and transducer.
We're trying to develop a transducer, and combine it in an orthogonal
approach with a sensor. Because I'm using DNA within the actuator, DNA
is an interesting substance; most of the proteins involved with genetic
disorders interact with DNA at some point. (Something I'm not catching
about seeing how single molecule drugs interact.)
John: Most of what I said, five years or less.
Eric: I divide applications by complexity and by the value per unit
mass. The highest payoff per material is something that gives you unique
information; e.g. the sequence of a DNA strand. A step up is something
that processes information that isn't unique; e.g. memory. Instead of
one memory cell per patch you address, you have 1,000 or more. A step up
from there: molecular electronics, a long-term topic: you need a circuit
board or some way of organizing the components. Similar category:
therapeutic agents; catalysts: you have leverage. That's a sketch of
some of the applications I see for structures where you have unit cells
a few nm in size, and you get a high payoff from one, or an ongoing
payoff from a few. Going forward of course the opportunities broaden.
Audience: Environmental impact topic: Eric, you said there was a concept
in your book that you declared obsolete. I'm guessing that's
replication. Is replication out because it's unsafe, obsolete, ...?
Eric: It's obsolete. All the factories in the world have the collective
capability to make more factories. But there are advantages to
specialized equipment passing components around. It's more efficient.
Things that copy themselves--making a box that has all the complexity to
make all its own components--biology shows it's possible but very far
from easy. So there's no roadmap to it because it's not a desirable
objective. If someone wanted to go to the effort to make such a thing,
and additionally made a processor for materials from the ambient
environment... it's hard to see what the motivation would be. It would
be unselectively destructive. Usually destruction is intended to be
selective, e.g. weapons.
Christian: I proposed something that does replicate. The idea was to
have a solution containing components that could completely replicate
all its components. But it's driven from the outside; there's a computer
that controls it through each step. It would be a mind-boggling
challenge to make an autonomous self-replicator.
Eric: History of ideas: The notions in Engines of Creation were early
ideas intended to give a proof of concept of a way to get to macroscopic
scaleup. The simpleminded thing was to imitate biology. But that wasn't
a good idea and we've moved on.
Audience: When are you going to come out with products? I was listening
to a panel like this last week; the panel's consensus was "back off, we
won't have it any time soon."
John: We'll have products soon. The initial products won't justify the
investment, so some patience is required. Going back to Eric's example
of the blacksmith that could make his own tools: I heard [?] talk about
Babbage being stymied trying to make his Difference Engine because he
didn't have precise enough machining. Once we can make atomically
precise tools, we'll be able to do a whole lot.
Christian: I'm hoping in the next couple of years to show applications
that justify the effort. The challenge now is to find sequences that
have the properties we want. Organic chemists are good at making
molecules with different shapes - not so good at engineering function.
An exception is Fraser Stoddard who will talk tomorrow. But there's a
heavy computational element. Molecules aren't like wood - you can't cut
them off at any size you want. I'm currently writing software to try to
find/design function. I'm hoping a couple of years. But I can't give you
a date.
Keith: Today I showed you a hanging-drop system that's a single-molecule
sensor. That's two years ahead of schedule. In three years we should
have our orthogonal goal. Dual measurement of a single event. That gives
very good control.
Eric: I very much hope that Nanorex will make their product [software]
available next year.
James: Value of this roadmap?
Audience: Protect/deprotect: Christian, you say you're using only two
protect/deprotect, and that's all there is. But DNA uses Watson/Crick
binding. Zyvex uses spatial protect/deprotect. Is there a way to combine
these?
Christian: There's actually a lot of protective groups--a book this
thick. For us, there's really just three good classes: ones that are
taken off by base, acid, redox. That's what limits us. There are many
others out there, but not with the kind of reliability we need. DNA
synthesis does use protective groups.
Keith: Question for Christian: DNA synthesis has an upper length limit;
sounds like you're expecting something similar; do you expect DNA
breakthroughs will help yours?
Christian: DNA is actually much better than peptide synthesis. I've seen
130-base DNA with very high purity. For us, we need high yields at each
stage, and 99% is good. Steve Kent routinely makes 60-mer and 70-mer. I
think we can achieve those lengths. It's important for proteins to be
big, because they have to fold. We don't have to fold. So we may be able
to get away with just building active sites.
Eric: The productive nanosystems that we know of, in biology, are
clever, highly tuned, kinetic proofreading. But ribosomes get errors of
~10^-4 per step. DNA: 10^-9.
James: Any final comments?
John: Value of roadmap will be judged by the number of people who read
it and try to use it. Value will increase exponentially if we come back
and update it.
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Nanophase Materials
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presentations from an important conference on Productive Nanosystems:
Launching the Technology Roadmap...
Next talk: "Nanophase Materials. A Persistent Enabler" - Dennis W.
Smith, Jr., Department of Chemistry, Clemson University
Welcome to the second day of live-blogging the Productive Nanosystems
conference. The first talk is about "recent examples of functional
nanosystems related to polymer synthesis and applications in photonics,
energy conversion, and renewable materials." (By the way, the agenda for
the day can be found on the SME website.)
Dennis does polymer chemistry. A good quote: "Dear Colleague, Leave the
concept of large molecules well alone ... there can be no such thing as
a macromolecule." Advice given to Hermann Staudinger, future Nobelist,
in 1920. Mike Treder starts his talks with a bunch of quotes about how
flying machines are impossible and the world only needs five computers.
This might be a good quote to add to the list, especially since a
diamondoid nanomachine component is essentially a *really* large, highly
crosslinked, macromolecule.
A diblock copolymer is two different polymer molecules joined together.
They self-assemble into intricate semi-regular structures. Most pictures
of them look pretty randomly wavy, but he showed a couple of pictures of
"guided self-assembly" with very straight lines and sharp angles. That's
cool.
Diblock copolymers may be useful for fuel cell membranes; they can
create several different "zones" in the material.
Polymeric nanocomposites are about putting nanoparticles in plastics
instead of larger "fillers" that have been used for a while. They can
make the plastic work better. Nanotubes can have more interesting
chemistry than e.g. carbon black (also a nanoparticle). There's
apparently a chemical interaction going on between the nanotube and the
polymer (polyaniline) - not just non-covalent interaction. And you can
make clear, electrically conductive polymers. In a piezoelectric
plastic, 0.05% nanotubes increases performance by seven-fold.
BODA can be turned into aromatic molecules, then reacted with carbon
nano-onions (which hasn't been done before, because the onion surface is
very graphite-like), which is nice because it solubilizes the onions,
and onions are photoreceptive.
Can make carbon nano foams for electrolytes.
Can make photonic materials by putting spheres into an array. You can
put polystyrene into rubber(?), making a photonic crystal. Then when you
stretch it, the bandgap (color) changes. You can make versions that
respond to solvent.
Can build polymers that detect specific anions. Sulfonate membranes to
make fuel cells. Functionalize nanoparticles. Build low surface energy
materials (nano-roughness) (so dirt doesn't stick) (may also have useful
optical properties, I think).
POSS: well-defined molecules that are big enough to be nanoparticles.
Fluorinated POSS is especially interesting. They dissolve well in
fluoropolymers (e.g. Teflon) and make it easier to handle and give it
interesting properties.
So, there's lots of materials and chemicals and substances with
tweakable properties. Most of this doesn't seem directly relevant to
general-purpose molecular manufacturing, but any little thing may turn
out to be useful. I'm guessing that this sort of work will feed into
basic science for spinoff designs, rather than bulk polymers being
incorporated directly into atom-precise nanomachines.
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Studying Mechanosynthesis
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presentations from an important conference on Productive Nanosystems:
Launching the Technology Roadmap...
Next talk: "Single-Atom Manipulation and the Chemistry of
Mechanosynthesis" by Damian G. Allis, Research Fellow, ICPRFP; Senior
Scientist, Nanorex; and Theorist in Residence, Syracuse University
This should be a very interesting talk, because it's about the kind of
reaction that'll be used to build diamondoid structures. He starts by
talking about what nanotech used to be--atomic precision mechanical
chemistry--before the nanoscale researchers started taking it into the
realm of imprecise constructions.
Mechanosynthesis is: Positional control of reactants, control of
orientation, asymmetric reactants (e.g. putting a small molecule at a
chosen location on a surface), control of environmental conditions. Goal
is programmable control of assembly processes, making complex covalent
structures that may be inaccessible to ordinary chemistry. [Without
mechanical input, it's hard to select between chemically similar
reaction sites. Also, mechanical force can create conditions that would
be really extreme in ordinary chemistry, such as very high pressure.]
Chemists do their work by changing the electronic properties of atoms
within a molecule: internal control, which lets them select reaction
sites [with difficulty]. Mechanosynthesis selects locations mechanically
and directly.
Supramolecular synthesis: molecular building blocks. Instead of
targeting between adjacent atoms, it may be easier to build slightly
lumpier (but still precise) constructions out of medium-small molecules,
and then only have to select between molecules.
He's showing a 222-carbon graphite sheet--this has actually been
synthesized--and talking about how hard it would be to target a
particular atom by chemistry, and how much easier by mechanical
selection.
Now he's showing complex diamondoid machine parts, and talking about how
we hope to figure out synthetic pathways to build them. [Chemists would
not be able to build such things.] Is there any evidence we can build
such things? Yes... scanning probe microscopes have done chemistry. It's
primitive, but so was the first transistor.
Tool tip designs: deposit carbon dimers to build diamond. Or even single
atoms. (The ultimate level of control of matter.)
There are various levels of precision when simulating atoms. You want at
least Hartree-Fock, if not DFT (density functional theory). That takes a
lot more computer time. Today's tool tip talk represents the DFT level.
Designing tool tips... If you stick an atom onto an adamantane, then
pull it off, you get a dangling bond. But there are other molecules (AL7
and iceene) that rearrange bonds so nothing dangles. (So it'll take less
energy to transfer the atom, which is good (at least up to a point)).
The hardest point of designing a tool tip is defect structure analysis.
You have to figure out every way it can rearrange that you don't want.
Find the transition states, so you can analyze how likely it is to
happen. If it's not going to fall apart, then you have to look at the
tooltip-workspace transfer energies. Finally, you do molecular dynamics
simulations, to find the mechanical properties of the operation.
... Sorry, but he's talking very fast about things I can't quite follow.
I'm not sure whether "hydrogen abstraction" is a good thing or a bad
thing at the moment, and what energy states are being analyzed. But
overall, he's talking about how to analyze whether the structure will
fall apart in certain ways. Even if the defect state is lower energy,
the transition state may be high-energy enough that it's hard to get
there, so the tool tip will be stable [actually, metastable].
... Something about depositing atoms onto a workpiece at edges and
corners, not just into the middle of a surface... Something about
transferring atoms between tooltips... He's been running out of time and
has been talking even faster for the last five minutes.
Question, something about how the defect structures are found. There's
no formal way to generate them; use either chemical intuition, or shake
them up (in simulation) and see how they fall out.
Drexler says: his intuition is that there won't be practical
applications for these kinds of reactions, in vacuum, for several (tech)
generations in the future. But the same kind of analysis can be applied
to peptide (protein) bonds in water. Damian agrees. [The Nanofactory
Collaboration would probably disagree - they want to develop
nanofactory-level technology by direct early use of this kind of
mechanosynthesis.]
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Simulating Cells
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presentations from an important conference on Productive Nanosystems:
Launching the Technology Roadmap...
Next talk: "Biological and Nanoscale Systems"
by Mitchel J. Doktycz, Research Staff, Oak Ridge National Laboratory
He'll be talking about how biological nanosystems fit into the Roadmap.
Biological nanosystems are atomically precise structures made using
atomically precise technology. But how do they become a functional
nanosystem?
- How is the system engineered?
- How is information processed to balance material synthesis and energy
production?
- Why are the components the size that they are?
So biology is already at Atomically Precise Manufacturing--but we don't
know how they're engineered.
What's exciting for a bio person is that nanotech lets us engineer tools
at the molecular and macromolecular scale, so we can interact directly
with the lowest level of biology.
Subtle point: biology is very hierarchical: molecules dictate
higher-level function. In nanotech, there isn't a hierarchy of control
(yet) (that would need engineering we don't know how to do).
There's a 1/4 power law in organisms: life span lengthens and metabolism
slows in proportion to the quarter power of an organism's mass. This is
caused by the physics and geometry of transport, and the cell being the
fundamental unit. [I think he means that cells don't change size much in
different-sized organisms, so transport has to work harder in bigger
organisms.]
Cells have much higher power density and energy density than batteries.
Cells have high functional density. An E.coli cell is about 2 microns.
It contains about 50 million molecules. Diffusion becomes reasonable:
any two molecules meet each other every second in a micrometer-sized
volume. [But that doesn't guarantee that they'll meet in the right
orientation to interact! -CP] A few dozen molecules can form a
concentration gradient. Cells have to trade off between energy,
information, and material functions.
Mimicking cells: "What I cannot create, I do not understand" -- Feynman.
Through design of synthetic nanosystems, try to understand cells. So a
cell mimic: a network of molecules inside a membrane. We want to build
this... simpler. Build the membrane by micro and nano fabrication. Build
the molecular network by DNA-based instructions fed through cell-free
transcription. This lets us start to understand integrated networks and
the effects of scale.
... Sorry, I missed a slide. There was an earsplitting alarm from the
kitchen which is on the other side of a flimsy wall from the conference
room, and it took them several minutes to turn it off.
Nano-fibers can mimic pores. .... Something about ink-jetting onto
cells.
Membranes are key. ... Argh, the alarm is back.
Something about anomalous diffusion, where the diffusion constant is
time-dependent. Spatial control of diffusion.
Enzyme containment: put horeradish peroxidase inside the cell mimic
structure, flow stuff through it.
They can contain DNA, and use it to generate protein by flowing through
a "cell free abstract."
Electro-actuation can cause a volume change (30%) which traps 50 nm
beads against a wall made of silicon posts coated with polymer. Can even
capture and release individual proteins.
Summary: bio systems are a practical model for understanding functional
nanosystems. Nanotech provides a platform for examining hypotheses that
can't easily be tested in biology.
Question: Eukaryotes have lots of transport and other internal
mechanisms; is diffusion enough? Answer: 30% of proteins are
trans-membrane [so a lot of things go on separate from internal
mechanisms].
I asked about whether the need to bump in the right orientation would
mean that the one-a-second encounters resulted in action once every ten,
100, 1000 seconds, or what. Answer: Volume packing(?) increases the
encounters/activity. If I'd had time, I'd have asked a follow-up:
doesn't that correspondingly slow diffusion? But maybe that was already
taken into account in the one-second calculation.
My reaction: it seems that building artificial cells and structures is a
useful way to build some kinds of nanosystems, and to research some
kinds of phenomena. I'm not sure it'll be very relevant to diamondoid or
other high-performance systems. But for diffusion-limited, fluid-drag
limited productive nanosystems, the techniques and approaches described
here may be quite useful.
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Shrinking Electronics
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Next talk: "Atomic-Scale Device Fabrication in Silicon"
Michelle Simmons, School of Physics, University of New South Wales,
Australia
Michelle will be talking remotely from Australia, about making silicon
electronic devices at the atomic scale.
In 2020, Moore's Law says we'll be at the atomic scale. We'll need
deterministic doping [putting atoms where they will affect the
electronic properties of the silicon]. We'll also need atomic level
control of the interfaces between different materials.
The plan is to use single phosphorus atoms as quantum dots.
Doping error [variance] is the square root of the number of atoms. So if
you have 10,000 atoms, the error is 100, which is 1%. But with 100
atoms, the error is 10, or 10%. That means the threshold voltage is not
reproducible between transistors.
Quantum effects dominate at this scale [for electrons, not atom
position!] - can this be used?
Silicon atoms in a surface can't be moved around the way Eigler moved
metal-on-metal atoms; the silicon atoms are strongly bonded. [But Oyabu
did manage to remove and replace single atoms; but that's more
cumbersome than being able to push them around the surface.]
The goal is to make atomic features. Remove hydrogen atoms from a
hydrogen-terminated surface, deposit phosphorous-containing gas, heat it
to incorporate the P in the surface, then deposit more silicon on top,
then deposit electrodes above the buried dopant atoms.
To understand what the microscope was seeing, when looking at PH3 gas on
the surface, they had to calculate the energy level of lots of different
configurations, then use density functional theory to simulate what it
would look like to the microscope... then they could go back and
identify surface features from the microscope image.
By calculating what the phosphorous does as it loses hydrogens, and how
it incorporates itself in the silicon surface, they can now place P
atoms with atomic precision.
She's talking about amount of phosphorous vs. temperature. That doesn't
sound atomically precise. I guess it's a different research direction.
It's possible to see buried 7-nm-wide wires reflected in the electronic
properties at the surface.
It's possible to count the dopant atoms. And then, by building a Hall
effect structure, count the charge carriers - and each atom creates a
charge carrier. Similarly, they can demonstrate that the STM tip can
completely remove the H protectant and let all possible P in.
OK, this next thing is really cool. They can build structures narrow
enough to affect quantum effects. It goes like this: if electrons are
able to make a coherent quantum loop between dopant atoms, they go
around the loop in both directions at once, interfere, and are blocked;
this increases the electrical resistance. Lower temperature and magnetic
field allow bigger coherence length, bigger loops, and thus more
resistance. But if they build a sufficiently narrow wire, then the
biggest loops can't form, and the resistance doesn't spike as high. They
can calculate the size of the loops that didn't form, and it matches the
width of the wire they built.
Something cool that I didn't catch while writing the previous paragraph:
ordered dopant vs. random dopant leads to an Arrhenius voltage curve...
or something like that.
They can make single silicon dioxide layers by depositing a layer of
oxygen, then a layer of silicon (at low temperature), then heating it.
They can build circuits using combinations of surface electrodes and
buried gates.
They're working on nanoscale MOSFETs, 3D transistor architectures,
atomically precise resonators, silicon-based quantum computers.
My observation: Although this is not moving/mechanical nanostructures,
it is an example of atomic-precision fabrication. It's mainstream, it's
semiconductors (which means that there'll be commercial attention), and
it leaves no doubt that stable single- and multiple-atom,
atomic-precision structures are being built by scanning probe
microscope. This should go a long way to blunting claims that atomic
precision fabrication is impossible on either practical or theoretical
grounds.
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Nano Investment in Singapore
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Next talk: Nanotechnology in Singapore: Towards Atomic-Scale
Manufacturing
Khiang Wee Lim, Executive Director, Institute of Materials Research and
Engineering (IMRE), Singapore
Drexler just gave this guy a very positive introduction. The talk is
going to be less technical - talking about investment (public and
private) and international participation in the Roadmap.
Singapore is at 2.36% R&D as percentage of GDP. They aim to grow that to
3% by 2010. As a small country they have less inertia. They want to add
more boxes to the National R&D Framework.
One of a dozen "Technology Scan Areas" is "Exploiting Nanotechnologies."
A slide of "Nanotechnology Industry Strategy" with a lot of text,
including things like IP strategy... I apologize to the business people
who are interested in this stuff, but I guess I'm just not. .... Oookay,
now he's talking about hard disks and value chains... this may be a
pretty short post.
OK, that's interesting: under "Data Storage Institute" he lists "Femto
slider." That's 10^-15. Clearly not length; maybe volume? If so, it's a
length of 10^-5, which is not that small after all.
The nanoelectronics programme shows sub-20 nm devices starting in 2006.
That is certainly interestingly small. If nothing else, it should drive
a market for nanoscale lab equipment such as microscopes.
He's talking about technologies, but at such a high level that I can't
tell how interesting they are. For example, sequential imprinting to
control surface properties of polymer films: lotus leaf self-cleaning,
etc. Gears: MEMS? NEMS? molecular? Theory or experiment? I can't tell,
but he just said the purpose of the work is to demonstrate that
mechanical concepts can be translated down to the molecular level. Hm,
looks like he's built an actual gear-like molecule, and tried to pin it
to defects on a gold surface. Looks quite interesting, but he skipped
past the only slide with technical words on it, too fast to see.
Now he's talking about Zyvex-type atomically precise manufacturing.
Including "Vertical sidewalls" for 3D silicon structures. That's cool;
it means you can build tall things, not just pyramids.
Back to investment... private companies... embedded ID tags for
anti-counterfeiting. They thought it would be used on cell phones and
Gucci bags; the biggest market turned out to be a company that made
automobile air conditioners... that were counterfeited so well that the
company couldn't tell which of the warrenty returns were theirs.
Roadmap considerations: Risk, standardization, multiple countries,
health&safety issues, etc. Samsung has a washing machine that injects
silver ions into wash loads to kill germs; the US EPA has ruled that
this is a pesticide and gets regulated along with bug spray.
Countries getting into nanotechnology are hugely diverse. China is an
early mover on standards; Taiwan on certification. In Taiwan, "nano" is
positive, an advertising point, so the government wants to protect
consumers by making sure that "nano" actually contains nano.
Risk framework from IRGC: two frames of reference: Frame 1: Passive
things pose e.g. human health, explosion, ecological risks - known
types. Frame 2 (active, integrated, & heterogeneous nanosystems) are
said to pose new kinds of risk (oops, the slide went away). [I'm
thinking most Frame 2 nanostructures won't actually be that
interesting.]
By the way, they announced yesterday that the slides from the talks
would be put up on a website in the next few weeks; assuming that
happens, we'll post the URL on this blog.
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Top-down, all the way down
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Next talk: Information Technology: Toward the Atomic Scale
Thomas Theis, Director, Physical Sciences, IBM Watson Research Center
He starts by saying he likes being at a meeting where people are
interested in making small things, not just developing new knowledge.
With regard to the semiconductor roadmap, to which the PN Roadmap has
been compared: it's headed toward atomic resolution, but it's not
focused on it. The semiconductor roadmap is focused on the next
generation device (half the area of the current devices). It's good to
have a longer-term focus.
He'll be talking about top-down, bottom-up, and integration of them. In
real life, there's no purely top-down or bottom-up manufacturing
process. And rather than talking about theory of energy vs. information
vs. time in manufacturing, he'll talk about "whatever works."
Semiconductors are driving top-down small-dimension manufacturing.
Conventional optics (with near-field correction--very expensive) can
apparently get down to 22 nm features. [How's that for breaking the
diffraction limit!]
In fact, he thinks that "top-down" can be taken all the way to atomic
precision. The "millipede" scanning probe array may be used as a
lithography tool, not just a storage device. You can write and erase bit
patterns millions of times without wearing out the tips. But, despite 6
terabits per square inch, 4096-tip arrays, and hard disk speeds, this
will probably not be a product... it'll be outcompeted by solid-state
non-volatile memory. But they won't throw it away - they'll try to use
it for lithography.
The resolution of the millipede is "quite a bit better than a
nanometer." Heat up the tip enough, it evaporates the polymer, so it can
do line crossing (without snow-plowing the polymer into the first line).
12-15 nm line width is "no problem."
Controlled electrochemistry with atomic precision: attach gold atoms to
pentacene, covalently. Can change the charge state of the pentacene,
because it's on an ionic solid (sodium chloride) which can reshuffle
itself. This reduces the energy required to do reactions. So you can
build some room-temperature-stable structures.
IBM is beating the semiconductor roadmap: air-gap dielectric. Block
copolymer can make a coating with very small holes. Those holes can be
used as a resist to etch air gaps. (Actually, vacuum, if I understood
correctly.)
Carbon nanotube FET (field effect transistor). They coat a nanotube with
insulator and metal, put electrodes around it, and voila.
DNA shapes are a possibility for future circuit-building; maybe not in
10 years.
Summary: Practical manufacturing will increasingly incorporate
"bottom-up" chemistry.
Question: Do you see hydrogen depassivation scaling to wafer-scale? A:
[Basically, probably not, but it may well be useful for other things.]
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Squishy Molecular Motors
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Next talk: Dave Leigh, School of Chemistry, University of Edinburgh, UK
Tooling Up for the Nanoworld
Nature already has a nanotechnology: nanomotors and structures and
materials and catalysts... all done with molecules.
Lessons to learn from biological machines:
* Soft not rigid
* Work at ambient temperatures
* Utilize chemical energy
* Work in solution or at surfaces
* Effect of scale - constant motion
* Rely on Brownian motion
* Made by self-assembly
* Governed by non-covalent interactions
* Statistical mechanics not Newtonian mechanics
* Require architectures which restrict degrees of freedom
* Operate far from equilibrium
[Ooh, I wish I had time to answer these point-by-point! This is
basically a direct attack on diamondoid, and each point has an answer.
In fact, I've already answered many of them over the past four years in
my science essays though I shouldn't take too much credit because the
answers have been known for quite a while.]
Random motion can be "harnessed" to do work, if you have a randomizing
force, an anisotropic medium, and a "fuel" energy input (or information,
which requires energy). [I've never quite been sure why you're said to
be harnessing the motion rather than the fuel.]
He talked about several kinds of ratchets: if you change the potential
energy "surface" that the particle experiences, then you can make the
particle move without directly touching it. Like rolling a marble on a
blanket by lifting up parts of the blanket. There are several ways to do
it; they look quite simple and intuitive. There may be some reason why
it wasn't obvious that these would work except in hindsight, but it's
hard to see how they could *not* work given basic conservation laws.
The application to his molecular motors seems to be that the motors
aren't moved directly by force, but jiggle themselves into the most
"comfortable" position given some change (light, etc) applied to part of
the molecule.
A motor that hides or exposes a fluorinated region can make a droplet of
liquid move over a surface: movement of millimeters due to movement of
nanometers. Kinda' cool, molecules controlling a macroscale object.
Starting with two ring-like molecules strung on a larger ring, he can
make the small molecules move in a circle around the ring by hitting the
ring they're strung on with two different colors of light in
alternation, to bump first one and then the other molecule off its
resting place.
There was a discussion of a "Maxwell's Demon" which is a thing that
can't exist because it violates the laws of thermodynamics... except
that he's built a molecule which squeezes a ring over to one side when
you shine light on it... and there's some verbage accompanying the
phenomenon which makes it sound counterintuitive. But I can't help
suspecting that a different explanation would sound much more intuitive,
somewhat less mysterious, and just as cool from an experimental point of
view.
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Mechanical Molecular Electronics
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Sir Stoddart Speaks: Dr. Fraser Stoddart, winner of the experimental
Feynman prize, will be talking about molecular motors. The previous
speaker, David Leigh, won the theoretical Feynman prize for molecular
motors. So far, Dr. Stoddard is talking about previous prizes, meeting
the Queen (she noticed when the announcer at the knighthood ceremony got
the word "nanotechnology" wrong), his childhood... he played with jigsaw
puzzles and Meccano sets... he learned to like crossword puzzles....
Crossword puzzles are just about words, not grammar or sentences.
Chemistry is currently in the pre-sentence stage; it has the potential
to write sentences and paragraphs, but we're not close to there yet!
Feynman mentioned that information can be packed very tightly, and
computer elements can be shrunk a lot; Feynman talked about the ad-hoc
but usually successful process chemists use to figure out how to make
molecules.
OK, he's just outlined the technical part of his talk. Two trips down
memory lane, rotaxanes and catenanes, switching in those molecules,
switching used in computers, defect tolerance, and four or five other
topics... trouble is it's now 12:28, and lunch was supposed to start at
12:30.
Anyway... he's giving a history of learning to make catenanes.
After the first catenane that was just a structure, he built one that
"liked" to have a certain part of one ring inside the other ring. But
when it was oxidized, it rotated out. This could be used to make a
computer memory element by sandwiching a monolayer between two
electrodes. A linear version (rotaxane) made a better one. Bill Goddard
simulated the shape of the molecule and its electronic properties.
They investigated the effects of packing the molecules tighter or looser
in their monolayer; investigated the molecule in solution.
They designed a fault-tolerant memory architecture. They built an array
of 160,000 bits in the space of a white blood cell: the density in the
semiconductor roadmap for 2020.
To impact molecular nanotechnology, we need significantly more complex
molecules; templated organic synthesis; physical measurements;
computational work; a feedback will happen between making, measuring,
and modeling.
My takeaway lesson: you can do cool things with just a few atoms if you
design the molecules right.
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Military Application of Atomically Precise Manufacturing
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Next talk: Low Cost, Atomically-Precise Manufacturing of Defense
Systems: Progress and Applications
David R. Forrest, Engineer, Naval Surface Warfare Center and President,
Institute for Molecular Manufacturing
There are immediate defense applications for nanomaterials... but
there's also a long-term vision for atomically precise manufacturing
(APM). Beyond that, he wants large atomically precise objects. There are
advantages to this...
The roadmap projects we might get APM sooner than we expect: 10-25
years. (With hard engineering work for the next 15 years.) And this is
applicable to next generation conventional weapons. But Real Security is
something else... above and beyond building lethal weapons.
Current nanotech for defense:
Filtration and biocides
Composite material reinforcement
Multifunctional coatings
Energy and electromechanical systems
(this is sourced from public information, SBIR etc, that's on the web.)
High-efficiency, high-throughput filters: not only remove, but
apparently kill pathogens; less clogging; made of alumina.
Composite material enhancement requires functionalized nanotubes (add
molecules sticking out so they don't just slip past the polymer).
Nanotubes can control electrical properties as well as mechanical
(useful for radomes).
Coating: e.g. nickel nanostrands as additive to make paint, resin, etc.,
conductive. This can make aircraft more resistant to lightning strike.
Super hydrophobic surfaces, damage sensing, self-repairing.
Nanoparticles in glass coatings for abrasion resistance and
anti-fogging.
Energy: nanotube-enhanced ultracapacitors. (May reduce the 20-lb(!)
battery weight US soldiers carry.) Nano-crystalline cores improve the
efficiency of power transformers.
Better body armor.
Flexible solar cells; nanotubes on silicon increase surface area [does
this help light-gathering?]
So that's what's happening today. But we want to get from nanomaterials,
to devices, to systems, to atomically precise manufacturing. Just
because it's nano doesn't mean it's atomically perfect. Nanotubes are
strong because they're defect-free, not because they're nano. So you
need atomically precise manufacturing to get the high strength.
Forrest put up a graph of various materials: standard, micro-crystal,
and theoretical strength. It was very impressive, how much higher the
theoretical strength was. A Gerald R. Ford class carrier, currently
weighing 100,000 tons, might be built for 2,500 tons if it were built of
atomically precise steel. (In theory.) Rail guns need strong conductive
materials... well, atomically precise copper has 80 X the strength.
There are similar implications for toughness, wear resistance, corrosion
resistance, fatigue strength, creep strength, and oxidation resistance.
[Forrest has ductility on the list too, but I thought ductility was a
result of defects.]
Future materials may be very different: for example, Josh Hall's utility
fog. Each microscopic particle is a robot that contributes to a truss.
Similarly, defense systems might be rethought--might be very different
from today's.
We now have a roadmap for atomically precise manufacturing; we need
components and systems. Nanoparticles are not on the APM trajectory! The
roadmap document includes a list of components: biomotors, DNA-based
robotic arm, nanotube nanomotor... that already exist. Take a systems
engineering approach and start integrating these things in a
systematized way. The range of technologies described in the
roadmap--Seeman, Schafmeister, scanning probe synthesis, hybrid
techniques e.g. Zettl, simulation of atoms...
Challenges of the transition:
- Low hanging fruit vs. APM leads to bias toward status quo.
- Need acknowledgement that APM is technologically feasible,
biologically demonstrable, economically inevitable.
- Commitment: focused R&D. Success is more about commitment than
strategy; the roadmap outlines many paths.
- Industrialization and scaleup... to do the necessary R&D. Take a
systems approach; integrate using standardization.
- Meeting the consequences. There are serious responsibilities
accompanying a technology this powerful. Best approach is to address
them directly.
Forrest skipped three skeptical questions, because he's short on time.
The slide was up for half a second:
Doesn't it need a breakthrough? No, just R&D. Isn't large-scale
nanofabrication impossible? No...
Real Security
- More than just a function of iproved lethal force. It's a function of
prosperity. APM can win hearts and minds by providing basic needs,
flexible transportation, education, healthful environment...
- Comes from addressing the double-edged sword of technology directly.
Prevent surprise, prevent misuse, use embedded safeguards, avoid arms
race...
Summary: APM isn't about making small things. Productive Nanosystems
makes large things, at improved cost, flexibility, and performance.
Question: How should funding flow? A: It'll come from a number of
sources. DARPA, Army, Navy... there's funding on nanomaterials... the
roadmap will help, but we need to get their attention.
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Solid-State Lighting
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Next talk: Molecular Design of Solid State Lighting for Energy
Efficiency
Paul E. Burrows, Laboratory Fellow, Pacific Northwest National
Laboratory (and over 100 patents)
Artificial lighting was perhaps the most important/irreplaceable result
of our first invention, fire.
Candle: 0.05 lumens/watt
Gaslamp: 0.5 lumens/W
Incandescent lightbulb: 15 lm/W (5% efficient)
Artificial light uses vast amounts of electricity. Conventional light,
even fluorescent, can never be more than ~20% efficient. 22% of
electricity in US, 8% of total energy consumption, $50B per year, 150
MTon of CO2 per year. Most of this is 19th century technology!
Typical lightbulb has a 2800K blackbody spectrum; 95% of the energy is
in the infrared. Most is over a micron; the eye responds to ~400-750
nanometers.
Electrons in a semiconductor can only occupy certain levels; thus, you
don't get a blackbody spectrum. The photon energy is defined by the
bandgap of the semiconductor.
Commercial LEDs can be expected to reach 50% efficiency and possibly
more.
Hot off the press: 1,050 lumens in cool white @ 72 lm/W; 4 amps in a
mm^2 die, at 150 degrees C. Very impressive!
"Nanotech isn't a length scale, it's a state of mind; how you think
about making materials." Design a molecule for a particular function.
Molecular structure determines color; even in films, the molecules
interact weakly, so the photophysics is determined by the bonding inside
the molecule. Some molecules can hit 130 lm/W. "All you have to do is
convince customers that they want green light bulbs in your living
room."
Using phosphorescence, not fluorescence, which means you want high
triplet exciton energies. This is because of electron injection--he
didn't have time to explain this.
So there are some small molecules (three rings) that have ~3 eV energy,
but they're too small to have nice material properties. But you can put
phosphine oxide to provide a point of saturation, no conjugation past
that point, so it isolates the optical part. And it makes the outer
wings of the molecule negative - very high band gap (which means you can
inject electrons at the right energy, if I understand correctly).
So you can make films of this stuff, thin-film structures just a few
hundred nm thick. Konica Minolta has achieved 60 lm/W. With further
development, it may achieve 200 lm/W. And it's diffuse light (because
you can't put a lot of power in a small area of organic molecules,
you'll fry it) (on the other hand, you can easily print the thin film by
the square meter) so you don't need lampshades so you save efficiency
there too.
Green fluorescent protein is 80% efficient, but the artificial version
of the fluorescent part is 1% efficient and has a broader spectrum of
light. Why? It flops around; in natural GFP, it's held in the right
position by the rest of the protein. Could this be done artificially?
Let's hope...
Fluorescent efficiency can be enhanced by a nanoparticle that creates
plasmons to couple the energy out of the molecule. But the spacing must
be exactly right. Can this be done by engineered molecule? Let's hope...
Electron transfer rate between organic molecules: very small changes in
spacing affect the electroincs of the molecule.
Can we design optimized device components that make an efficient light?
Perhaps Schafmeister molecules could be a way to make the right spacing.
Great quote: Report from the Select Committee on Lighting by
Electricity", London, House of Commons, 1879: Electric lighting has
inherent problems and can never replace gas.
We're not hitting the bleaching lifetime of the molecules; moisture
kills it; that's a packaging problem.
Clever idea: using inorganic LEDs, you could flicker them fast enough to
transmit lots of data (too fast to see) so you piggyback networking (at
least half-duplex) on your lights.
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Commercializable Nanotech Solar Cells
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Next up: A Comparison of Nanotechnology-Enabled Photovoltaic Materials
and Devices with Near-Term Commercialization Potential
Robert J. Davis, Director, Nanotech West Laboratory, The Ohio State
University
Nothing in this talk that wiggles or swims; but it's very useful.
Talk structure: Intro to photovoltaics; nanotech-enabled PV; likely
entry points for nano in commercial PV in next five years, and why;
overview of a PV research center.
We need to harvest power at cost comparable to fossil-fueled power
plants: 6-11 cents/kWh. Solar cells need to drop cost by 75% from
$5/peak watt.
PV cell operation: I/V curve is like a diode, with a sharp "knee" at the
origin. Under illumination it shifts down and to the right. You want to
take off power at the knee; otherwise, you'll waste either voltage or
current.
Crystalline and polycristalline silicon is pervasive but expensive at
>$5/Wp just for the cell itself; there's been a recent worldwide silicon
feedstock shortage; but even without this, can it ever meet cost
targets?
Amorphous silicon, thin film deposited: 8% efficiencies, but it might be
improved by a-Si:Ge heterojunctions.
Thin film II-VI compounds, CdSe, CdS, CIS, CIGS. These get around 10%
efficiencies (polycrystalline) and are lowest cost at this time.
This talk will focus on nanotech in absorber layers, electrode layers.
Absorber development: Multijunction cell based on III-V compounds: use
epitaxial [thin, precise] layers of AlGaAs, InGaP, GaAs, InGaAs to
approach or exceed 40% efficiency. [BTW, II-VI and III-V refers to the
column of the periodic table.]
Also, quantum-dot based absorbers, and nanoparticle precursors for CIGS
and other films.
Multijunction cell: GaInP junction, 1.8 eV; GaAs at 1.42 eV; window
layer, transparent graded layer to step to InGaAs 1.0 eV. These were
recnetly published and are beginning to sample commercially. Details:
You need quantum mechanical tunnel junctions to transmit holes and
electrons between the layers. Also, you have to manage defects and
crystal-lattice strain. Also, these cells are used in concentrator
applications so you need to manage extreme thermal issues.
These type of cells were developed for spaceflight applications, but are
now being shipped for concentrator applications (500 to 1000 suns). The
nice thing about concentrator is that you can use tiny (cm^2) cells.
Some cells are being grown on Ge:SiGe wafers for better mechanical
properties. Also, nanodots are being added to increase IR usage.
Solar cells based on quantum dots in a matrix are low efficiency (2%).
Nano-ink is used to deposit II-VI. I didn't catch why, but this is
likely too expensive for anything but military applications.
Electrode development: Transparent conductive oxides are expensive, hard
to put on glass, hard to control stoichiometry (material ratio). But
there's considerable work on single-wall nanotubes in polymer. This
material is also useful in touch screens and electrostatic protection,
so it's probably going to be developed usefully.
So, nanotube electrodes are probably going to be the main early entrance
of nanotech into PV. Also, multi-junction may not be pure nano, but may
provide an entry point for nanoparticles.
Ohio Wright Center is working on solar cells; trying to capitalize on
auto-manufacturing expertise in building big-ticket items out of metal,
glass, advanced polymers.
... Yep, he was right, no productive nanosystems here. But a solid
interesting talk.
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Productive Nanosystems Panel: Applications
Chris Phoenix is providing live blog coverage for us on all the
presentations from an important conference on Productive Nanosystems:
Launching the Technology Roadmap...
Panel abstract/topic:
Work toward productive nanosystems results in new commercial
applications at virtually every step. The increasing ability to control
matter to atomic precision enables major leaps in power generation and
storage, computation density and efficiency, high performance sensors,
and materials for aerospace that outperform past achievements by
surprising factors. This panel will explore the possibilities from
near-term and practical to longer-term and visionary.
Panelists:
Malcolm R. O'Neill, former CTO, Lockheed Martin; and Chairman, Board on
Army S&T, The National Academies
J. Storrs (Josh) Hall, Research Fellow, Institute for Molecular
Manufacturing
Papu Maniar, Advanced Materials and Nanotechnology Manager, Motorola
Thomas Theis, Director, Physical Sciences, IBM Research
Moderator: Pearl Chin, President, Foresight Nanotech Institute
[This is a near-transcript -- yes, I do type that fast.]
We're starting with presentations. First, from Josh:
We'll remember the 19th century for the Industrial Revolution. Newcomen
steam engine, built just about 300 years ago. The size of a 3-story
house, consumed massive amounts of coal. Eventually, with the
contributions of James Watt, they began to take over from water wheels.
It took almost 100 years to break into a significant paradigm shift
position in technology (from vacuum-driven to high-pressure-steam
driven) which enabled locomotives and required machine tools. There was
a synergistic effect from more than one segment of the economy which
created a never-before-seen economic mode.
The racing chain saw (used in lumberjack competitions) has the same
horsepower as the Newcomen steam engine, but it's handheld. Horsepower
per pound forms more or less an exponential trajectory for 300 years,
through steam engines, gas piston, gas turbine... the curve projects
molecular power mills at 10^15 watts per cubic meter in 2050. [There's a
missing engine technology in the curve, starting about now; if I get a
chance I'll ask Josh what it might be.]
Moore's Law. Cray-1: $7M for 133 Mflop. We got 52,600 more op/$ in 30
years; a dual quad Xeon costs $5k for 5 Gflop... and we use it to play
Solitaire.
In 2030, will I be able to afford things that cost $7M today? Airliners,
factories, hospitals. Can I carry in my pocket things that weigh ten
tons today? Houses, trucks, construction equipment. Josh pulls a memory
stick out of his pocket--ten times as much memory as a ten-ton memory
bank that served a college in 1976.
Nanofactories may enable this. (Don't forget the 2,500 ton aircraft
carrier from David Forrest's talk.)
Malcolm:
Aerospace is interested in atomically precise manufacturing: Lockheed is
spending $20-25(?) M per year on nano. APM promises a fundamental change
in how we think about making things:
Smaller volume, lower weight, potentially lower cost, stronger lighter
materials, higher energy propellants, higher performance reliability
capability and quality.
Define APM: Lots of different definitions. Lots of implications. We can
make anything we want to make with any properties we can get out of the
best materials. When going to Mars, a factor of 50 weight is the
difference between success and failure.
Payoffs in current products, and also yet-to-be-invented products.
Lighter weight. Molecular sensors. Smart clothing. Beating Moore's law.
(And more...)
In the DoD environment, it's hard to think outside the box. "To some of
my friends, graphite epoxy is just black aluminum." Then you need lab
tests andprototypes. Then you need demonstrators. 'Show me.' Then
upgrade parts of existing systems. Finally, new baseline designs. But
this is slow, because a bad piece of equipment can cost lives and
national security. So APM technologies will come through commercial
applications to the military. In national security, our computers are
typically a generation behind.
Long term payoffs means partnerships are needed: industry in close
alliances with universities and government labs, primary developers with
small startups, to make sure manufacturing gets proper attention and
reliability, environmental requirements, etc., are being met.
Tom:
Six years ago, he was asked to tell design automation people what would
happen in 50 years in nanotech. So: first 10 years, business as usual,
dealing with ever-increasing complexity. Increasing use of synthesis and
self-assembly. Organic electronics in niches. Increasing integration of
heterogeneious functions (sensors).
10+ years (from six years ago--prediction): Chemically synthesized
nano-building blocks replace semiconductor logic and memory devices.
Result: Increasing emphasis on redundancy, test-and-repair, and
self-repair. We may see little bits of this.
20-50 years: Increasing use of hierarchical self-organization (whatever
that meant). IT systems approach biological levels of complexity. (A
requirement for APM systems [I disagree--CJP].) We have no clue how to
design and verify such systems. Even back then, we were designing
self-repairing memories.
Chip-building is the "new industry" and will absorb whatever advances
come along.
How big can information technology get? It's 10-12% of the economy at
this point. Back in history, people wondered how we could become a
manufacturing economy--what would people eat? Today, 3% of economy is
agriculture. In future, 98% of economy may be information technology,
based on nanotech, probably APM.
Papu:
Nano in mobile devices: electronics, storage, antennas, power,
biometrics, camera...
Latest technologies have to be low cost, high volume, quick to
commodity. You don't know which phone will take off, at which point you
have to make 10,000 to 15,000 phones per day. In 2006, 2.2-2.5 million
cell phones were sold per day. By 2010-2011, we'll be selling 5 million
phones per day.
How we do R&D has changed: Ideation to acceptance to commercialization.
Ideation takes proof of science to proof of technology. One of a kind
isn't enough any more; proof of concept has to include repeatable,
scalable, six-sigma. Finally, R&D equipment has to be matched to older
OEM equipment (transfer). Tech prototype has to generate a product
prototype; this is proof of value. Product prototype = 300-3000 units.
It has to be not only manufacturing qualified, but suited for high
volume manufacturing.
You used to have concept IP. Now you have technology IP, which takes it
from proof of concept. And manufacturing IP, which takes it from proof
of value.
Nano specific challenges: Ideation: Value is application specific. Proof
of sciencde is necessary but not sufficient.
Proof of concept and transfer: Very long cycle times to make repeatable
setups, because you're forcing nano processes on established equipment.
Proof of value: Value is diluted because product isn't optimized; supply
chain isn't ready; risk isn't worth it. Maybe 1 out of 10 nanomaterials
makes it into a product.
Nano introduction timelines: 1-3 years: Housing and displays; 3-5 years:
energy, storage, RF; 5-10 years: energy, RF, wearables; 10+ years: nano
circuits, flexibles.
Pearl: What do the panelists mean by near-term, long-term, visionary?
Tom: Near - evolutionary enhancements on existing tech; visionary: what
would be really revolutionary is mfg technologies and machines operating
at thermodynamic efficiencies. Precision is a done deal, scaleup has to
be worked on, efficiencies depend on ...
Papu: Short term 1-3 years. Long-term 3-7, anything beyond 7 years we
have no clue. Cell phones won't look like cell phones in five years.
Malcolm: The chart that Papu showed is exactly the way we see it in
aerospace; except we buy rather than make. Investors want to see 3-5
years out. So that's were we use internal funding. Up to 10 years,
government funding.
Josh: I and several other nanotech people were invited to the Foundation
for the Future in Seattle in 2000. They asked me to talk about what the
future was going to be like. They said, "Tell me what the year 3000 is
going to be like." I was floored. A thought about design automation:
When I was a postdoc in the 90's my group wrote an AI program that could
design a complete pipelined microprocessor given a description of the
instruction set. That kind of thing is getting better as time goes by.
Design and other parts of information economy are moving at Moore's Law
growth rate. Right now, APM has one foot in the digital world of the
atomic precision, one foot back in the old analog world of the
industrial revolution growth rate. Key challenge is to get the synergies
right to move the whole thing into the digital growth rate. I discovered
that doing things in the real world is a lot harder. When I wire up
microprocessors, they work right the first time. When I wire up motor
controllers, which are much simpler but carry 500 amps, they blow up. As
we go digital, the opposite will happen, which is why digital has the
accelerate growth rate that it does.
Malcolm: One of the interesting technologies I don't think you talked
about was meso-atmosphere. From 50,000 feet to 100 km, where a satellite
can stay in orbit. That's a tremendous range of altitude that no machine
occupies. We're exploring that through nanomaterials: lightweight fibers
from Akron; power generation and storage; conformal antennae;
lightweight materials. That's a system, mission, capability that would
be disruptive, revolutionary, all of the above. You wouldn't have to put
things in orbit; you'd be above the jet stream; you could stay above one
point on the ground virtually forever.
Papu: Motorola has worried about cell phones and mobile comm will change
in the next 3 years. Trends we worry about: variables in general, and
whether current architecture will be distributed or stay unified.
Tom: My focus is on devices and IT: storing, processing, communicating
information. Something that's about to happen in a big way, and most of
you aren't aware: there's been a precipitous change, a tremendous
increase in the rate of decrease of per-bit cost of solid-state memory.
Later this year, Samsung will introduce the world's first large-capacity
phase change memory. These can be scaled to the few cubic nanometer
range without running into fundamental problems. What's already in the
labs tells me this trend of decreasing cost of memory will accelerate or
at least continue. We'll have attributes of products that we don't have
today. Hard drive companies are all panicking and looking for other
business. What needs to happen is something has to replace the silicon
transistor. That's nano. That's simply not there; there's lots of
handwaving, e.g. non-charge-based devices, spintronic, plasmonic; but
everything that's in the lab doesn't have the capability of doing better
than the transistor in terms of performance/power. Clock speeds
saturated because we can't run faster without using too much power. To
move forward, IT has to figure out how to make things work in a nearly
reversible fashion. Today, each bit erasure dissipates the bit's energy.
If we can develop reversible devices, then processing technologies can
go much further, and peta or exaflop devices could fit in your pocket.
If we're stuck with the transistor, then we're stuck with 1-5 GHz
computers for as long as I can see.
Josh: Is anyone still working on optical computing? (Something about
power being too high.)
Tom: We analyzed and never went into it. Plasmonics is the new thing:
light couples to smaller waves, lets you miniaturize the devices. So far
I haven't seen a device that's better than transistors.
Pearl: Any questions from audience?
Audience: Once we start working with cellular sized machines and we have
nanoscale computing elements, what conceptual bridges do we have to
cross to create a neural computer interface?
Josh: A lot of software.
Tom: I won't answer that, but the fundamental problem with neural
anything is that we don't understand the algorithms the brain runs. We
can do things that a computer can't do no matter how long we give it. We
basically know that most of what the brain does is pattern recognition;
we (meaning the neuroscience community) know this can be mapped to
Bayesian inference; trouble is, that's NP-hard; we don't know what
approximations the brain uses. And remember the brain does this with
only a few (~10) logical operations. If I knew the algorithms, I could
have a group implementing them; so you're asking for a breakthrough in
algorithm, not nanotech.
Malcolm: [??] will do two studies in 2008; one is neuroscience; there's
some very interesting work going on, trying to figure out how the brain
waves couple into thought and actions; this is something the National
Academies are working on.
Josh: The [??] group at MIT has an architecture that's as good as humans
at recognizing dogs.
Audience: What do each of you see as the most important technological
development in the next ten years in nanotech?
Josh: I don't know.
Malcolm: I'd hope it would be a fundamental understanding of the
potential of APM. Without having achieved it, but at least understanding
where we need to go, where to invest, where's the low-hanging fruit.
Tom: That device I described, the device that can exceed the ultimate
performance of the transistor, that's most important for IT.
Papu: Mobility. With mobility, we get convergence. Power: We need a
portable form factor. Also, we need a display bigger than the device.
Third one: health-related diagnostics: mobile device for personal
health. That goes to medical/bio sensors.
Tom: Outside IT, and maybe more important than anything in IT, getting
the cost of photovoltaics below coal could be biggest. That could happen
around 2015.
Pearl: Want to thank every panel speaker.
[... And that wraps up the conference! It's been fun...]
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