[tt] [ccm-l] Alcor Conference, Phoenix 10/5/07

[Eugen Leitl]

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From: Stephen Streat <StephenS at adhb.govt.nz>
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 22:27:48 +1300
To: David Crippen <crippen+ at pitt.edu>, ccm-l at ccm-l.org
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Subject: RE: [ccm-l] Alcor Conference, Phoenix 10/5/07


   One question -- Mike or anyone else.

   Has anyone, anywhere, at any time been cryopreserved (full body or
   "neuro") after determination of brain death and certification of death
   by such criteria ?

   A couple of "supplementaries"

   Given the stated rationale of cryopreservation -- would there be any
   point ?
   Would anyone (Alcor) do it (for the money)?

   David -- organs on Ebay is not the bottom of the barrel -- there's
   more.

   1) One miserable Episcopalian, contemplating the death of his wife
   from cancer (vide infra), doing his Christian duty
   ([1]http://www.cofe.anglican.org/news/pr9607.html) walks into the
   "facility" (freely, voluntarily, without coercion and with the
   intention of exercising his full and inalienable rights to dispose of
   his body in anyway that he sees fit and is not expressly prohibited by
   state or federal law).
   2) Connect self to "Kevorkian device" (not a named brand ...) and
   monitoring system as instructed by avatar summoned up by entry into
   unmanned facility.
   3) Read disclaimer, sign waiver, and contract, push button, start
   thiopentone, then pancuronium, then potassium.
   4) Alarms go off at appropriate time, uploaded to the net
   5) On call Physician accesses net alarm via crackberry, pops in from
   secure facility across the road, certifies death (pay no attention to
   that man behind the curtain).
   6) Immediate ECMO (as per Spanish protocol for Maastrict category II).
   (Balloon catheter occlusion cerebral vessels problematic, perfusate
   temp negotiable, resurrection not strictly desirable, only adequate
   neuro-information retrieval).
   7) Organ retrieval liver, kidneys, pancreas, lungs, heart ('bots,
   baby, gibletbots).
   8) Post organ availability (serology, tissue typing, blood group,
   size, microarray analysis etc) on Ebay with 1 hour auction closeout.
   9) Commence cold cerebral preservation and proceed to
   "neuro-cryopreservation" as per contract above ("cryobots, baby")
   10) Close auction, secure electronic funds transfer and call Fed-X --
   11) Profits from Ebay, after contract liability, to go to paying for
   poor dying wifes cancer treatment (as alluded to by libertarian
   rationalist). (Appropriate therapy not available for poor people
   because of heartless warmongering military-industrial government with
   other priorities).
   12) Lots of people happy. Lots of happy people lead long and happy
   lives. One miserable person no longer miserable. Died with a smile on
   his face (until the pancuronium anyway). Good economic activity. Money
   is good. Not so much of that dreadful news about "people dying on
   waiting lists".

   "What's wrong with that" ?
   (It will need the assistance of some lawyers, IT types and
   entrepreneurs to turn it into a viable concern, sure, but the basic
   business plan seems promising, surely).

   Come to think of it -- what about all those states that seem to have
   given up lethal injection -- surely there could be some three-way
   "contra deal" business synergies possible here ?

   You all know who wrote this, I don't need to sign.

References

   1. http://www.cofe.anglican.org/news/pr9607.html

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